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War on photography?

Tuesday June 24, 2008 at 03:02PM

There is a very interesting, if someone salaciously titled, article on photographers' rights at http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0806.html#1 written by security expert Bruce Schneier. It has lots of great links, is not specific to the US (though I think he only gives links related to US, Great Britain, and Australia) and I thought some of you might like reading it too.
Main points:

  • Since 9/11 the harrassment of photographers has increased at public places, such as
    train stations, etc. He says that, in fact, *none* of the terrorists captured so far actually took photographs as part of their planning. (I didn't know this.)
  • He gives a link to the NY Times which quotes the following statistic: according to the market research firm InfoTrends, US's amateur photographers produced 28 billion digital pictures last year, 6 billion more than they shot on film,  That does not count pictures deleted before being printed or transferred for storage.
  • Lots of links on the "Photographers' rights" and anti-photography "incidents".

I've never run into any problems but thought I'd post this, hoping it might help some of you other ipernity members.

10 Comments / add your comment?

Granddesign says:
Recently I was denied entry into Scotland because my camera (accidentally) was placed at eye level with an immigration official.

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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Jonathan Ward replies:
wow, that is harsh!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Jonathan Ward says:
on zooomr there was a big discussion on this. a problem is lack of public knowledge over the legality of public photography in different countries. plus, the increasing privatisation of public space means you don't often know there are other rules in place.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
tschnitzlein says:
All of this hysteria not only seems to invade the heads of our officials, but also all kinds of nutheads in our cities who find a pastime harassing photographers using some perverse assumed authority as "protectors of the public":
www.ipernity.com/blog/tschnitzlein/73539#commentlist

I'm much more worried about vigilantism than of uninformed officials.
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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Daniel Schwabepro says:
I had a similar incident as tschnitlein, see my post about exactly this situation (including the common "man on the street", and not only authorities...
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Bigoode [Frozen account] says:
thanks
very interesting
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Larryosan says:
I really like Bruce Schneier for his sensible approach. He cuts through all the security posturing that goes on. A subject that ties in to his work is the whole take on the politics of fear that is permeating our society not only since 9/11 but goes back quite a ways. But the amount or tenor of the fear campaign seems to have deepened. I won't go as far as to say hysteria is greater now than before because there have been many notable episodes of so called public outcry that was orchestrated by the media. Even today I find it funny to see our local newspapers hawk this so called "outraged citizens" stuff. They manufacture the outrage, fuel the fires and then point to the aroused citizenry.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Tr1steropro says:
I was stopped and (politely) forced to erase a picture I had taken of a barrier at the APEC summit in Sydney last year. It wasn't even of an official buildung (a bank), and it wasn't regular police, either - just private security. I certainly is a matter that should be taken into the public focus...
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
wdjpro says:
Thank you all for the great comments. For you US photographers, here is a page on the regulations for photography permits which was new information to me. Maybe some of you will find it useful:
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/photo-permits/.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )
wdjpro says:
Here's a related post to slashdot which appeared yesterday:

+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Photographers Face Ejection Over Lenses |
| from the control-freaks-dining-out dept. |
| posted by kdawson on Friday August 15, @09:20 (Censorship) |
| yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/15/1233238 |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

[0]destinyland writes "Zooomr CEO Thomas Hawk was [1]ejected from a San
Francisco art museum because the security guard apparently thought his
expensive camera could be used to spy on female employees. Another
photographer notes that 'many people consider a professional-looking
camera a threat,' and the state of California has even passed a [2]law
against telephoto lenses being used to intrude on celebrities' private
lives. Hawk is [3]routinely confronting security guards who argue that
photographing their buildings represents a 'security threat.' Ironically,
four weeks ago while attending Microsoft's Pro Photo Summit, he was told
he [4]couldn't even photograph the lobby of a Hyatt Hotel."

Discuss this story at:
yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=08/08/15/1233238

Links:
0. www.destinyland.org
1. www.10zenmonkeys.com/2008/08/14/thomas-hawk-versus-rent-a-cops
2. query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B04E5DB1E38F936A35753C1A96E958260
3. thomashawk.com/2006/04/photographing-architecture-is-not.html
4. thomashawk.com/2008/07/boycott-hyatt-hotels.html
Posted 14 months ago. ( permalink )

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