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Possible bug: different license for visitors and members for blog posts?

Tuesday September 16, 2008 at 12:05PM

I did notice this some time back but seem to have forgotten about it again. Now I stumbled over it again and since I should actually be doing something else I'll procrastinate and write about it shortly.

It seems that blog posts display a different license for visitors and members. I don't think this is on purpose. I really believe it is a bug - and it needs to be fixed.

My documents (pictures, texts, videos [none yet], ...) are generally licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution + non Commercial license to allow other people to play with the things I have created creatively and freely.

I have set this as my default license in the preferences.

It does get applied to my pictures and is properly displayed regardless whether I am signed in as a member or have a look as a visitor.

It is not displayed properly for blog posts, though, when reading them unauthenticated. In this case the posts are presented as being licensed under Creative Commons Attribution + No Derivs.

This is very unfortunate and not correct.

Does anyone else notice the same? Is this only the case with the CC BY-NC license and only for blog posts or does this also happen with other license models and other media types?

I would be glad about feedback and a correction of this problem.

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*Reinhard*pro says:
schon mal gemeldet???

bug@bug.ipernity.com
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Underscanpro replies:
Nö, da ich (1) die Bug-Meldeadresse nicht kannte (Danke!) und (2) erstmal Rückmeldungen einholen wollte, ob das nur mir so geht und nur in dieser Kombination auftritt.
Ich gebe es aber gleich mal weiter.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
*Reinhard*pro says:
gab es schon eine Antwort?
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Underscanpro replies:
Habe es auf Deinen Hinweis gestern an den "Ipernity's customer support" geschickt. Mal sehen, woran es liegt.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
wdjpro says:
I see this:

This post is public
Attribution + no Derivs

in the right hand column.

BTW, you say "My documents (pictures, texts, videos [none yet], ...) are generally licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution + non Commercial license to allow other people to play with the things I have created creatively and freely." This depends on your definition of free (free as in beer or free as in speech?). I think cc-by-sa creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0 is the license (which I use) is the license I would say is "really" free.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )
Underscanpro replies:
Thank you for your feedback.

Actually I am seeing "Attribution + no Derivs" myself, too, now - when signed in as well as an unauthenticated visitor.

It seems the bug has been fixed - which is nice on the one hand but sucks on the other in so far as all my blog posts are now licensed under "Attribution + no Derivs".
Still, my default license has always been "Attribution + Non-Commercial" and nothing else. So now I have to redefine the license of *all* posts to match what I always wanted it to be. Since there is no way of batch-processing blog posts I will have to do this manually on each and every one - which is a nuissance. Oh well...

BTW, you say "My documents (pictures, texts, videos [none yet], ...) are generally licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution + non Commercial license to allow other people to play with the things I have created creatively and freely."
This depends on your definition of free (free as in beer or free as in speech?). I think cc-by-sa creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0 is the license (which I use) is the license I would say is "really" free.


You are of course absolutely right, that BY-SA is the "real" free license.
[Edit: Whereas the freest license would be the "simple" By-Attribution - no restrictions expect naming the author]
I have decided on the "Non-Commercial" restriction, though, to (1) allow people to use my works in own creative ways as long as (2) they do not do so in a commercial way.
If anyone wants to do so he will have to contact me and ask for permission and possible conditions.

I do this mainly to prevent "big companies" TM ;) from simply taking works I have created and reuse them for their own profit.
If e. g. someone wants to produce a calender with one of my shots in it and then sell it - this has happened to me - that is really no big deal. I will (usually) gladly grant permission to do so.
I personally want to make use of the possibilities of using CC licenses to further a collective culture, a culture of everyone, a culture that is not dominated by profit-oriented companies. Hence I tend to be sceptical about the commercial aspect.

The "Non-Commercial" part of CC is one big issue anyway. What is "commercial"? Does it apply to "Only For Profit" or also to "To Compensate Expenditures"?
Difficult aspect - but is being discussed a lot within CC.

[Oh boy, long comment-reply... longer than the post itself. Please be lenient toward me. :)]
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