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Google Translate + ipernity = new power "translate" feature

Tuesday July 8, 2008 at 01:18PM

ipernity is proud to enable the first social mashup of the brand new Google Translate API.

Members and visitors can now request "on the fly" translations of posts, comments, discussions, descriptions, iperMails... written in foreigner languages*.

 

Translation is made from/into 23 languages*. Of course, automated translation is not perfect but we are convinced it brings ipernity members and visitors a real added value for a global understanding.

Thanks to this new feature, ipernity becomes the first social internet media facilitating exchanges between people from various horizons ;-)

(*) Arabic, Bulgarian, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hindi, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Spanish, Swedish. Esperanto and Catalan are not yet supported by Google Translate. We'll add these languages as soon as we find translation services with free API use.

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assbach pro says:
just saw it :D very cool idea
oh and very cool you sent out a tweet directly!
twitter.com/ipernity/statuses/852800610
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pandarine pro says:
Is there any way to keep the link from showing up directly under my pictures?

First of all, it doesn't work for me - it's just an lead to the picture itself (#), and second: If I want to translate my text, I usually do it myself anyway.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
assbach pro replies:
what about your visitors? they can use the link. it's not for you (only) i think.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pandarine pro replies:
Like I said: If I want my visitors to read the text in English, I will translate it (manually!) myself, as I am strictly opposed to automatic translations - and since years preaching against them.

I am constantly helping people to understand how an automatic translation works, and that it's in no way a substitute for a manual translation. And I just don't like the link under my pictures.

This has nothing to do with the very helpful new feature under any given comment, though. THAT is cool!
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
assbach pro replies:
i know what you mean, and i agree to the "look" or placement of it, but what about saying it in a nice way? and still i think it will help a lot of ipernitys users.

anyway, maybe it's an idea that the team can add a preference for this to appear or not.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pandarine pro replies:
Sorry if my comment came across as not being "nice". I thought simply asked if there's a way to disable this feature under my own pictures?
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernity pro replies:
Are you talking about aesthetic considerations?
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pandarine pro replies:
Not only those.

So far, the link doesn't work for me. If I click it, nothing happens - and sometimes there is not even a text to translate and the link seems to be unnecessary.

And also, I often write funny comments in dialect. When I feel my English speaking visitors should understand them, I translate them myself. In these cases, the automatic translation would be completely wrong anyway.

And some of my pictures have bilingual text already. There, too, the link would be redundant.

Bottom line: I would like to make it an option, not the default.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernity pro replies:
Okay, let us think about it...
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pandarine pro replies:
Thank you :-)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pandarine pro replies:
Update: Now, that the bug is fixed, it doesn't seem so bad anymore, after all.

I noticed if the text is already in English, and I click on the translate-link, there's a very nice message:

This text already seems to be in your language. According to Google ;-) - I can live with that.

And under the bilingual text it's actually pretty funny to compare my manual translation with the automatic Google translation - just what I have been preaching for years ;-)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernity pro replies:
It was a bug: now fixed!
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Дон Андре pro replies:
–– Das ist die Übersetzung die Google vorgeschlagen hat:
Okay, lassen Sie uns darüber nachdenken ...
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Stuart pro says:
Very good idea, saves me doing it manually :)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Дон Андре pro replies:
–– Das ist die Übersetzung die Google vorgeschlagen hat:
Sehr gute Idee, spart mir tut es manuell:)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Doomshammer pro says:
Nice! Really cool idea! Especially for a french-loser like me ;-)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
manganite says:
Das ist ja toll! Ab jetzt alles nur noch auf Deutsch ;)

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Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Tupelo Honey pro says:
I would also like to have the possibility to keep the link from showing directly under my pictures.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernity pro replies:
There was a small bug: the translate link appeared even if the description was empty.
It's now fixed: the link appears if there is a description only.

This is what you wanted?
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pandarine pro replies:
That explains one of my concerns. Thank you, I'll look again ;-)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Tupelo Honey pro replies:
Thank you, it looks better now.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pandarine pro replies:
The bug still seems to be there: If a picture has notes, but no text, I can still see the link, but clicking on it doesn't do anything (example)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Iljuschin pro says:
Cool. J´aime bien d´utiliser les langues que je peux parler (un peu), mais ca peut aider!
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Bernard Sommet pro says:
Une fois de plus BRAVO et MERCI à l'équipe d'Ipernity.

Juste une question : le lien "traduire" n'apparait pas sur tous les commentaires et jamais sur les réponses aux commentaires. Est ce normal ?
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Team ipernity pro replies:
Le lien "traduire" apparaît :
- lorsque le texte semble être rédigé dans une langue différente de celle que vous utilisez pour surfer sur ipernity
- ET lorsque le texte est rédigé dans une des 23 langues supportées par Google Translate

Sous ces 2 conditions, le lien doit également apparaître pour les réponses aux commentaires.

En revanche, quelques minutes sont parfois nécessaires après qu'un commentaire ait été posté pour que le lien "traduire" apparaisse.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
colso pro replies:
Oops, the translation engine shows a little hickup. While it works well with the two french comments above, it shows error:5 when I try to translate this comment. Has it anything to do with you folks of the Team Ipernity? ;-) Btw thnx again for this helpful gadget.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernity pro replies:
It was a bug. Fixed!
Posted 7 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Bernard Sommet pro replies:
It seems to work now. Thanks a lot.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Дон Андре pro replies:
Huch, Google konnte diesen Text nicht übersetzen:
Die Übersetzungsautomatik hat diesen Fehler ausgegeben: error:5.

Which translates to:
Oops, Google could not translate the text:
The automated translation returned this error: error:5.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Hannes Trapp pro says:
cool! but why doesn't it work on this page?
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernity pro replies:
It should work. Here are the rules:
- there is no "translate" link if the text is written in the same language you use to browse ipernity
- there is no "translate" link if we cannot detect the language or if the detected language is not supported by Google Translate
- there is sometimes a delay (a few minutes) between the moment when a comment is posted, and the moment when the "translate" link appears. This delay depends on the availability of Google Translate services.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pandarine pro replies:
When I want to translate your french text directly above, I get the error message:

Oops, Google has not been able to translate this text.
The translation engine's sent back the error: error:5.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernity pro replies:
This bug should be fixed now.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
HeikoBe replies:
@Hannes Trapp: Es funktioniert doch hier! (Translate this!)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
lichtundschatten pro says:
Thank you. Great gadget.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Trébol Azul says:
yeah yeah yeeeeeeeah!!! very good idea! Thanks a lot team!

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Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
nib! pro says:
Cool, mal schauen wie gut es funktioniert.
.. muß ja jetzt nicht mehr selber übersetzen ;-))
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Pandarine pro replies:
Aber besser verstaendlich waer's trotzdem ;-)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Carsten pro replies:
Hehe, wenn ich mir Deinen Kommentar ins Englische übersetzen lasse (immer noch meine Standardsprache hier), kommt da raus: "Cool, let's how well it works.
.. must have no longer translate itself ;-)) "

Also: alle so schreiben, dass es Google gut übersetzen kann.

:D
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Pandarine pro replies:
Ach was, damit kann man doch prima Spass haben! ;-)))
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Carsten pro says:
Thanks for this feature, even though translation won't be easy for google as most comments are written in a colloquial form. It's nice that it will be easier now to get an idea what all those french comments mean :D with a nice integration here.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
mesiplus pro says:
Now ipernity grows altogether! smile
Thank you!

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Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
♫☼ Kratzbürste ♫☼ says:
Thank you :-)
GENIAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
christin
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Bigoode [Frozen account] pro says:
This is absolutely HUGE !
waaaaa

Chapeau les mecs !!!
serieux la ca déchire grave et ca mérite un communiqué de presse !!
j'vous jure c'est vraiment extra ordinaire ca !!!!!
jamais vu nulle part dans le ouaibeuh !
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Christophe Ruelle pro replies:
Huge comme tu dis! merci! On est super excités depuis quelques temps à l'idée de sortir cette possibilité.
Enfin je peux comprendre les nombreux commentaires en allemand dans mon espace ;)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Bigoode [Frozen account] pro replies:
frimeur avec ton "nombreux"
PTDR

par contre autre "petit" truc c'est que le lien n'apparait pas ! pour les coms dans notre langue
quel esthetimse !

encore chapeau les mecs
ca déchire à donf votre truc !
bon finalement je reste encore un peu :D
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Christophe Ruelle pro replies:
hahaha c'est vrai en plus je dois en avoir 1 ou 2, pas bcp plus ;)

Et oui, c'est toute la difficulté de proposer le lien que lorsque c'est pertinent. Comme d'habitude, pour ajouter un simple lien à la noix ça demande des semaines de réflexion. Vraiment heureux que certain se rendent compte du boulot ;)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Pandarine pro replies:
Really pleased that some realize the job;)
(Translated by Google)

Hey, I *do* realize the hard work you put into every detail, too! ;-)))

Thank you, it's a pleasure to be here on ipernity - ALWAYS! :-)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Bigoode [Frozen account] pro replies:
jte rassure je m'en rends pas compte du tout PTDR
j'y connais rien moi !
mais en tous cas ca déCHIRE GRAVE !
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
anaïs miniña replies:
juste un truc... je ne suis pas sûre que la façon dont tu parles juste au dessus puisse être traduit dans tous pleins de langues... JAJAJA !
pitin, les lôngues régionales, chu pô sûr k'ça soit traduit, didonc
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Bigoode [Frozen account] pro replies:
AH AH AH AH HA AH
mi j'cro s't'in cour !
:D
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Дон Андре pro says:
cool
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
StarScream pro says:
yes cool... nathou tells me that but i cant realize... now i see and very coooooollll
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Be Blog A Lula says:
Wouaouhhhhh ! Alors là, c'est l'idée du siècle héhé !
Fabuleux !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Merci beaucoup.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Andy Harding© says:
excellent idea, quite brilliant.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
anaïs miniña says:
vous faites du super boulot !
et vous lisez dans mes pensées !!!...
merci !
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Amandine // Mata Hari pro says:
Franchement c'est GENIAL ! love
PS: Comment Iper sait-il dans quelle langue on s'exprime ? Si on n'utilise pas notre langue d'origine, qu'est-ce qui se passe ?
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Lea d'ipernity pro replies:
C'est simplement de la magie. Et oui. ;)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Amandine // Mata Hari pro replies:
Lol, suis impressionnée ^^
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Jean-Michel pro replies:
ya pas mal de techniques, mais je pense que le plus simple est la reconnaissance de caractères spéciaux, l'occurrence de certaines lettres ou tout simplement l'apparition de certains mots.
d'ailleurs je viens de trouver un article là dessus sur Wikipedia, ainsi qu'un ptit testeur en ligne si ca t'intéresse.
Par contre je ne sais pas exactement sur quel technique de reconnaissance est basé l'algo qu'utilise iper.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Amandine // Mata Hari pro replies:
M'ci, vi ça m'intéresse (on est geek ou on ne l'est pas, hein ? ;P).
C'est vraiment bien vu en tout cas comme fonctionnalité !
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Trébol Azul says:
A ver que tal traduce el español. Me encanta! je je je
Traduce aceptablemente, Inglés, Francés y Alemán.
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Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Trébol Azul edited this comment 8 weeks ago.
Michael B. pro says:
just tried it on a longer text (English to German) and the quality is astounding.

I'd second Pandarine's wish to turn this option off, because the author's translation will always be better, but still, it's good of you guys to see and provide this option, because it will be a real help to many, many people here. Merci beaucoup.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
© Marco says:
Sorry aber beim aktuellen Stand der automatischen Übersetzung ist diese Funktion Blödsinn!
Just my two cents ;)
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Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Jean-Michel pro replies:
I don't agree: I was just able to understand you :)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
greynine pro says:
interesting feature.
the first few comments I let the service translate for me here where surprisingly senseful.
let's see how it works...
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Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
greynine pro says:
Is it possible to use the "lang" attribute on html-tags to differ languages within multilingual posts (see example) and comments like in the Unofficial ipernity Ideas and Wish Group and to so support translation?

e.g. <p lang="de">deutschsprachiger text</p>

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Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Explorerhh pro says:
nice idea - but the google quality is so bad - it´s not worth even spending a second on that...
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pandarine pro replies:
I wouldn't put it that harsh.

It's extremely bad between German and English, because so many words in German have different meanings (i.e. Hahn, which could be either a rooster or a faucet). But if you use it to understand the general context of a comment, it could be a welcome feature.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Christophe Ruelle pro replies:
Yes Pandarine, it's just a simple feature thats helps to understand the general context of a comment just as you said.
Sometimes google translation is realy amazing.
Anyway, there was no intention to provide a perfect translation here. We rely on google and we show where the translation comes from because it's not our job.
I understand your point of view and I also understand that you think it's quite usefull for some people and in some cases. We know the limits and we hope everyone does. Anyway, it help right?
(But why did I write in english?...)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pandarine pro replies:
Because you are a great guy?
;-)))

Thank you - dankeschoen - merci bien!
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Roberto Ballerini (temporarily offline: time for life ;-) ) pro says:
Wow! It seems to translate better here then on Google Translate! LOL!
I don't know German, but the translation seems always understandable

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Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Christophe Ruelle pro replies:
oui ce n'est pas parfait. D'ailleurs quel "outil" pourrait le prétendre? Mais c'est déjà mieux que rien. Et franchement je suis plutot impressionné de la qualité en général. D'ailleurs on attends avec impatience un groupe qui va recenser les traduction les plus folkloriques. Ca peut être drôle ;)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Soepkipje pro replies:
Het maakt wel mogelijk nu dat ik kan schrijven in het Nederlands en jullie mij toch kunnen begrijpen :-)

Jammer dat mijn eigen commentaar niet direct gecontroleerd kan worden om het best leesbaar te maken in een andere taal. Ik heb nu mijn Nederlands gecheckt op Google Translate naar de Engelse taal om een correcte vertaling te krijgen
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Jean-Michel pro replies:
OMG ! I feel like I understand dutch ! :D
lol
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Christophe says:
J'ai pas tout lu, mais ça a l'air génial :o))
Merciiiiii !!!
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Paŭl Peeraerts pro says:
Geweldig! De vertalingen zijn wel maar zus en zo, maar ze kunnen toch heel praktisch zijn. Laatst had ik een commentaar in het Russisch. Nu weet ik ten minste wat er geschreven werd!
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Paŭl Peeraerts edited this comment 8 weeks ago.
Trébol Azul replies:
podemos enterder algo al fin :)
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Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Soepkipje pro replies:
Door woorden als 'zus en zo' te gebruiken, levert vanzelf al gekke vertalingen op. Als je er bij het schrijven rekening mee houdt en uitdrukkingen en afkortingen vermijdt, dan zal de vertaling vanzelf ook beter worden.
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Soepkipje edited this comment 8 weeks ago.
Lars Sözüer pro replies:
Kaj mi finfine povas kompreni la nederlandan!
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
a.C.k pro says:
Very cool :-D
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
daboogieman says:
I like this. It's not perfect of course but it does help me to understand better.

NOW I can communicate with a person in one of my groups who consistently misposts.

I just wish it wasn't affiliated with goofl <- NOT a mistake.

Thank you Ipernity!
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Tracy pro says:
this makes me happy, as my german and french are nonexistent. :)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pope Guido says:
sense ?
the nacked true is :
if you not speak french you never come in the "inner circle" of the community
and can say ,i feel at home here
sorry only my private personla meaning

80 % of the intersssting stuff is in french
10 % in english

and the rest different languages
;)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Дон Андре pro replies:
keep your private personal meaning for yourself then...
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Pope Guido replies:
anyone that know a little bit of" what i can make in the www"
know language toools and translation pages
so
sense ?

photos and art need no translation tools
or
it s an universal language

from the beginning of the human species on planet earth
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Дон Андре pro replies:
Je n'aime pas quand on vient a cette place pour dire que "francais es tout que es interessante et le reste es le reste" (en francais pour que tu entends que je t'ai dit)
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
josepina whitewall.com/EPHEMERE pro says:
I like it!
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )
Jean-Michel pro says:
mais ca déchire !!!!!!!!! c'est trop d'la baaaaallle !!! (vas-y Google, amuse toi, hahaha )
bon sérieux je vais enfin pouvoir répondre aux commentaires allemands que j'ai jamais compris ^^
c'est top
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink / translate )
Seyda says:
i like this!!
l can understand now :)))
Posted 8 weeks ago. ( permalink )